Growing Tall Poppies : Thrive After Trauma
Growing Tall Poppies: Thrive After Trauma is the podcast for anyone ready to heal from trauma, reclaim their power, and step into post-traumatic growth. Hosted by trauma therapist, coach, and author Dr. Natalie (Nat) Green, this empowering podcast blends real-life survivor stories, expert insights, and practical strategies to help you move beyond pain and create a life filled with purpose, resilience, and joy.
Each episode dives deep into the psychological and emotional journey of thriving after trauma—exploring identity, values, nervous system healing, resilience, and renewed purpose. You’ll hear how others overcame adversity, plus learn tools you can use to regulate your nervous system, rewire your mindset, and accelerate your growth journey.
What You’ll Gain from Growing Tall Poppies: Thrive After Trauma
🌱 Real Stories of Resilience – Inspiring conversations with survivors who turned trauma into strength and transformation.
🧠 Expert Guidance & Healing Tools – Proven strategies from leading professionals on trauma recovery, nervous system regulation, and mental health.
✨ Empowering Insights – Explore the mindsets, practices, and Trauma Archetypes that unlock post-traumatic growth and freedom.
💡 Psychology Meets Coaching – Innovative approaches that bridge science, therapy, and coaching to fast-track healing and thriving.
With over 35 years’ experience and her own lived journey of trauma and growth, Dr. Nat Green—creator of the ABS Method® and Archetypes of Transformation—is dedicated to ending trauma-associated suffering. Through her podcast, bestselling books, and transformative programs, she guides survivors and professionals alike to rediscover their identity, align with their values, and shine brightly beyond adversity.
If you’re ready to not just survive trauma but truly thrive after it, this podcast is your roadmap to resilience, healing, and post-traumatic growth.
Growing Tall Poppies : Thrive After Trauma
When Your Body Says ‘Enough’: The Hidden Cost of Being High-Functioning
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What happens when the life you’ve built… is the very thing making you sick?
In this deeply honest and expansive conversation, Dr. Nat Green is joined by Ramah Leith — a former public health professional turned multidimensional healer — who shares her powerful journey from high-achieving burnout and chronic illness to deep healing, alignment, and purpose.
After years of pushing, proving, and striving, Ramah’s body reached breaking point — with chronic pain, digestive issues, and autoimmune disease forcing her to confront a truth many high-functioning women avoid:
👉 You can’t outwork what your nervous system is trying to protect you from.
This episode explores what happens when you finally stop…
and the identity shifts, emotional release, and deeper healing that follow.
✨ In This Episode, We Explore:
- The hidden link between high-functioning perfectionism and chronic illness
- Why your body forces a stop when you keep pushing through
- The identity patterns behind people-pleasing, overworking, and “proving”
- What a “dark night of the soul” actually is (and why it’s a turning point)
- The moment everything changed: giving yourself permission to stop
- Healing beyond the medical model: body, mind, and emotional integration
- Why gratitude, presence, and slowing down are powerful nervous system resets
- Reconnecting with your body instead of fighting it
- The shift from head → heart → deeper inner knowing
- How adversity becomes the doorway to purpose and post-traumatic growth
🔥 Key Takeaway
If you’re constantly pushing, overthinking, and holding everything together…
This episode is your reminder:
👉 You’re not failing.
👉 You’re not broken.
👉 Your system is asking for something different.
And sometimes… the breakdown is actually the breakthrough.
💫 About Our Guest
Ramah Leith is a multidimensional healer, health and nutrition coach, visibility and business mentor, and ascension guide.
Blending her background in public health with medical intuition, functional nutrition, and energetic healing, Ramah now helps others reconnect with their bodies, release stored stress, and step into aligned, purposeful lives.
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“Peace, Connection & Alignment” Chakra Healing Activation— designed to support chakra healing, relaxation, and deeper connection. Here
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Welcome to Growing Tall Poppies, Thrive After Trauma. I'm your host, Dr. Nat Green, and I am so excited to have you join me as we discuss what it means to navigate your way through trauma or significant challenges, and not just survive, but to thrive after it. This is a space for people who've been through trauma or adversity, have done some healing, and know they're meant for more than just coping. This podcast is about post-traumatic growth, not getting back to who you used to be. Rather, understanding who you are now and learning how to stand tall without shrinking, forcing, or abandoning yourself. Here, we explore identity after adversity, integrity and visibility wounds, nervous system wisdom, and what it really takes to move forward in a way that feels aligned, embodied, and true. You will hear a blend of deep solo conversations and powerful guest interviews with people who have lived this work, not just studied it. Because growth doesn't come from pushing harder. It comes from understanding how you adapted, honoring your nervous system, and gently updating the old agreements that no longer fit the life you're ready to live. If you're ready to stop hiding, stop performing, and start owning who you are becoming, then you are in the right place. Let's grow tall together Welcome back. I'm super excited today to bring you our next guest on the Growing Tall Poppies podcast and it's my absolute pleasure to welcome a lovely lady who I've recently connected with. Her name is Ramah Leith, and she has experienced her own trauma and adversity throughout her life and has so generously come here with us today to chat, share some of her own story and how that's led to the amazing work that she now does today. Ramah is a multidimensional healer, health and nutrition coach, confident visibility, business coach and ascension guide. Her multifaceted approach to healing and coaching, embodies and blends medical intuition, functional nutrition, lifestyle support, quantum healing, business alchemy, and spiritual connection. So an amazing array of things there, and I'm really excited to welcome her here today and let her share her story with us. So welcome, Ramah.
Ramah LeithThank you. It's such a pleasure to be here with you, Natalie. It's my pleasure.
Dr Nat GreenExcellent. So as we know, our guests have usually been through a fair bit of adversity and trauma. So could we start with you giving us a brief introduction of who you really are in the world and, and what you do?
Ramah LeithYeah, I would say I'm the complete opposite of who I was about 10 years ago. Wow. That's a fair way to start, I think. so my background was, you know, very intellectual going through the. Education, getting the degrees, doing all those types of things. So my background is public health and I taught at universities. I ran multimillion dollar grants. I worked for state health department. So I did all this stuff in the public health field and I was doing that for many years until I had my own health breakdown. Mm. And so that's kind of the theme of what, you know, the topic for today as well is just how sometimes when we have our own health, a breakdown or just a disease or some kind of illness or anything that kind of knocks us into thinking, there's gotta be more to this and I don't wanna live like this anymore with either the illness or whatever might be happening. and a lot of people call that a dark night of the soul when they, you know, kind of start thinking like, is this, is this all there is, is there more to this? and so when that happened for me, I. I really had to take a look at like, is working a job and working in a world and functioning in a world where it's, I'm very focused on, you know, trying to be the best at everything and mm-hmm. You know, the people pleasing, the perfectionism, the people pleasing, the, I would put in all the hours just to show that I was good enough, you know? Yes. Those types of things. Which then you deplete yourself because you're not giving yourself the care, you're not giving yourself the love, you know, and the healing that you need. And then eventually your body says, Hey. What about me? And that kind of got to be where I was, where I was just in constant pain all the time. I could barely digest any foods at all. I had autoimmune diseases. So many, many things were going on. Mm-hmm. And it was just miserable. I was just miserable and didn't know what to do. And had gone to many doctors and, you know. Tried to find out if there was anything they could do to help me and there really weren't any answers. And it was more like, just try this medication or try this medication. Yeah. And I just didn't wanna go down that route. and so it was kind of thinking about there's gotta be another way. There's gotta be something else out there to heal. And there's gotta be more to life than feeling drained. Uncomfortable, having no, like, passion, you know, anymore or, feeling happy and joyful. And so, it just, it was kind of like that kind of wake up call, like the, there has to be more to this and there has to be a way to be healthy. That doesn't make me have to do a lot of medications, you know, and things like that. Yes. There has to be more to that. And so I, in, in just a moment of just pure desperation, I was just crying to my husband, like, I can't go on like this anymore. Mm-hmm. And, and didn't even think that there was another way that could happen that could lead me in a different direction. Like I was just like, this is it. This is how I have to live and this is all there is. And and he just said, well, you know, quit your job. Let's, let's get you healthy. And I was like, is that an option? Like, I didn't think that was an option, you know, I was just like, I can't, I've just gotta, I've always gotta, you know, like it's just how I always was raised. Like, you have to prove and be good and do the work and, and so forth. And, and not just like. Uh, freed something in me for one, like freed that like, oh, you can jump off the, you don't have to follow the status quo. You don't have to keep doing these things, but to think I can just quit my job. Like, I had never really thought of that before, even though I wanted to. And so I quit my job and. And then that began my whole process of healing my body, my spirit, my mind, you know, opening my heart connection to the universe. Like all the things happened. And it really took that though, to be able to give myself that grace to yes, figure it out. Like figure what I need to do to be healthy and um. Like I mentioned with the public health background, I was very science, you know, science is how I grew up and all that. So to go into starting to learn about metaphysics and spirituality and things like that, that was not on my radar. So I had no. No idea about any of the things that I do now I didn't even know existed.
Dr Nat GreenYou know, isn't it funny? 'cause you definitely, you know, you would've been medical models, science background, so analytical and as you said, you've. It's a few things that I love that you've touched on already because most of our listeners will relate that. High achieving, high functioning, needing to prove yourself, needing to be busy and would never consider. Actually stopping giving yourself permission. You just push, push, push, which as we know is why our health eventually something has to give because we are getting all these signals for so long and we're mm-hmm. Choosing to ignore them. We are not listening and usually it's a big whack with a sledgehammer over the head to, to make us actually listen because we, we've ignored them. I can so relate and I know that our listeners, that's, that's where most of them are coming from as well.
Ramah LeithYeah, and I. I spent so much time hating my body, you know, I was like, I was angry with my body for not working the way I wanted it to and not looking the way I wanted it to. And you know, we spent so much time not loving our body and I think that was one of the big things that I had to learn was like, I have to, I. Like, my body's a consciousness. It's, I'm like constantly, you know, being mean to it. It's like, Hey, let's give me some love. And that was a big part of it, was just learning how to give my, my body love and comfort in being able to, to value. What everything it's done for me. You know, it was still, it was still hanging in, even though I hadn't, I hadn't been like the most loving, being kind for a long time. Yeah, exactly.
Dr Nat GreenYeah. So, so tell me, your husband says, right, you quit your job. You'd never thought about that. So tell us about that next part of the process. 'cause I imagine there would've been this internal conflict of, can I, no, I can't, can I? No, I can't. For quite a while. You didn't just wake up the next day and go, yeah. Okay, I'll quit.
Ramah LeithI think because I had, I had really, really desperately wanted to, I mean, he would watch me walk into work just, just not wanting to be there and just like, oh, another day of, of doing these things, that doesn't bring me joy. And didn't even know what Joy was. And so I felt like it really was as soon as he said
Dr Nat Greenmm-hmm.
Ramah LeithQuit your job like it was like. I'm gonna do it like it was, it was like the next day I, you know, wow. I talked to my boss and was like, oh. because I needed to do that and I, I just needed that permission 'cause it wasn't something I thought I could do. you know, and that kind of is a disruptive situation in a family when you go from two incomes to one, you know?
Dr Nat GreenYeah.
Ramah LeithSo, yeah, so I just, you know, let my boss know. And then they kept me on as a contracted employee for a while, and then I got to dictate what I wanted that to look like so that I could phase out, which was great because then I was like, I'm starting my process of healing my body and taking my power and, you know, all that kind of stuff. And so, yeah, that was, that was really great to be able to. To kind of move forward. And when I started doing that, I told him as well. So my husband and I tell all of these things too, but I told him, I was like, I am going to stop all of my doctor's appointments because they weren't helping, right?
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm.
Ramah LeithI'm gonna stop going to the chiropractor. I'm gonna start doing, stop doing all this 'cause I'm going to heal myself. And he's like. Okay. I'm like, I'm gonna do it. Just watch.
Dr Nat GreenI'll prove it to you.
Ramah LeithYeah. I'm gonna prove it. And and he's like, okay. You know, he knows when I put my mind to something, it's gonna happen. Yeah. But I had no idea how it was gonna happen.
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm.
Ramah LeithAnd, so yeah, I started really. Spending a lot of time meditating, you know, sitting in the grass, really sending my body love, completely changed my diet, so,
Dr Nat Greenmm-hmm.
Ramah LeithGot off a lot of the things that are inflammatory causing, you know, and so forth. And so really changed my diet. Um. It changed my whole lifestyle and really just stepped away from all the stress to do more of the internal healing, the more of the like, you know, just sending love to my body and then trying to live as much of my life with joy and opening my heart, and that was, that was a big, big thing for me.
Dr Nat GreenYeah,
Ramah LeithI had so many heart walls built up. When you're trying to be perfect and you're trying to, you know, all those things. You just, the heart gets constricted. 'cause you're like, I'm never gonna be good enough, you know, and worrying about things. and then, so I just, eventually, you know, started to break down those heart walls through gratitude mm-hmm. And appreciation and, you know, gratitude for everything around me from, you know, the people around me, my experiences, and just really gratitude for the birds, gratitude for the flower, you know, just really bringing in that state of gratitude, which really helped me open up and, and feel more aligned with the universe and the people in my life. And, and I feel like that was. That was really, really an important part, was to, to break down those heart walls and, and let my, let me light out and let the light in.
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm. And that's a really powerful, simple step that our listeners could take just if they're thinking, oh my God, I'm, you know, I'm people pleasing, perfectionist. I can't just do this. Start with something little like gratitude for things that are around you. Just look for the little things, connect to nature, connect to the things that are simple, and it's a great place to start. So, so then what did you start to notice?
Ramah LeithOh man. So, so many things happened and I, I mean, when you look back, it sounded quick. It didn't seem as quick at the time, but, so. Meditating, sitting in nature, enjoying nature, gratitude, all of this just became like my very lifeline daily practices.
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm.
Ramah Leithand eating healthy and so forth. And while I was in that state, I started like listening to podcasts and listening to summits and reading all the books and, you know, all the stuff about spirituality and about healing and metaphysics and, um. Just everything that could, I could get my hands on or I would find. Mm-hmm. So I really became an of, I almost went a little too overboard because it kind of became my new job was like, now I need to know everything about all of this. Other stuff. and then I had to pull my reins back on that too. 'cause I was like, I wanna hear every speaker and I wanna, you know, like everyone's got so much information that I need to have that I didn't know, because it was a whole new world opening for me. so through that process I did, um. I found a medical intuitive and I heard her on a show and she was, because I had so much, physical pain, that she did a, a, modality as a medical intuitive called Galactic Chiropractic and. I was like, I've never heard of that before. I'm gonna try that. That sounds fascinating. and so I signed up with her and I had a session with her and it was remarkable 'cause the way she worked, I felt very aligned with everything that was happening. Like I was seeing things, I was feel like all this stuff was happening. And I'm like, this feels very natural to me. And I didn't understand why, but I was like, all of this sounds and seems very. Familiar. Okay. and, and I didn't know why, but I was like, okay. And, you know, through this whole process, I'm, I'm getting better. I'm not having the pain anymore. Like all of my symptoms are starting to go away. My, I'm digesting food now. You know, like all the things started happening that brought me back into better state of health. And then that same medical intuitive that I started following. After that, she ended up teaching a course. And at the time I was like, Hmm. I'd kind of since I had this session with her, and I started opening up to everything. She calls in guides and angels and she has a whole team. And while I was doing my meditations and in the grass and you know, feet on the ground doing all that stuff, they started coming to me. And talking to me like telepathically, and I was just like, is this real? I mean, I was like, I don't, is this real? It was very, I'm hearing
Dr Nat Greenvoices.
Ramah LeithYeah. I was like, am I losing my mind? I was a little concerned a little bit, because they were coming to me and talking to me like full on sentences. They're communicating. and, and I then I tell my husband and I'm like, okay, am I like, because he didn't, this was all new to him too. Yeah. It's so close. So we were like, am I is what's happening? And at the same time I started seeing like bubbles of light and I started seeing all these lights and. And I was going to the eye doctor and I'm like, is something going on with my eyes? And they're like, we can't find anything. So like all of these things just started happening, which was, you know, of course my third eye was opening, I was being connected to the universe and the guides and angels. And so all of this really opened up and, uh. It, it took me a while to completely believe what was happening, but then when I did, so much more came through, like so much more healing. Okay. So much more connection. you know, it, it was just amazing and beautiful. And then that same medical intuitive offered, um. A instructor, you know, to be an actual practitioner. Mm-hmm. So, of course, and at the time I was like, well, yeah, I'm, you know, I'm got got guides here now talking to me and stuff, but like, is this something I could do? I don't know. Even though I felt very aligned with the modality, I was like, I don't know. And then I just was like, Hey, you just gotta try. Like, and this has kind of now become my motto. It's like. Courage before clarity. Just, just jump in and see if, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But at least you tried and like I'm sure you're gonna get something out of it anyway. And and so I just said, okay, I'm gonna do it. And. In no time at all. So as soon as we started practicing, it all happened, like everything came online, so it was exactly as it needed to be. So as soon as the, now you're working on someone and then all of a sudden everything came in for being able to do the medical intuition and the quantum healing and you know, tying in that nutrition and stuff and yeah, so it was. It was really beautiful. And then I went on to get more, training as a functional nutrition coach. Oh, okay. Because I was like. I wanna, I'm helping them. Mm-hmm. You know, I'm helping clients and I'm finding what's going on and, you know, transmuting and working with the guides. So the guides come in and they're the ones that actually do the work. So they're, they're showing me things and they're the ones doing the work. But then I was like, I wanna help people to continue this. After our sessions and give them real life lifestyle changes. 'cause that was part of my healing. Mm-hmm. Was the diet, the lifestyle?
Dr Nat GreenYeah.
Ramah LeithYeah. Getting my head clear, getting in my heart, you know, all those types of things. So I wanted to help other people to be able to have those other. other options to kind of heal themselves and get better and feel more aligned. So that kind of led into the coaching part of my business. And yeah, so that's kinda how it happened. And so, yeah.
Dr Nat GreenAnd really to look at where you were. To where you are now. So you talked about wanting, you know, you knew you needed to open your heart and you'd had all these heart walls and you need to bring them down. But you definitely opened your mind as well in a way that it sounds like you didn't even think you could.
Ramah LeithI had no idea about any of this. Yeah. Like, I, I always thought that there was angels, you know, things like that were happening. But I just didn't think that any of them were there for me. I'm like, oh, they're there for other people, but like, they weren't there for me. So I think that was another thing to know that not only are they there for me, but they're there for all of us. But then they're also gonna help me. To, you know, awaken, heal, and be able to heal others. Mm-hmm. And I was like, I mean, how much more of a gift can this be to have that right?
Dr Nat GreenAbsolutely. Yeah. To, because I think, you know, the guests that I get on the show, we have some sort of adversity or trauma and. Our dark night of the soul is then what shapes where we move forward to. And I, I love that so much that professionals who often have been taught that, we can't share this deep part of ourselves. We keep that we, these professionals on pedestals. So we keep all that hidden. And now coming on here and saying, hang on, I'm gonna show up as a real me. I'm not special. This is what happened. I've had a hard time as well, and this is how I have navigated it and I wanna help do that for you too. So I love that so much.
Ramah LeithThere's just so much more that we. So much more available to us that we just didn't know was available to us. I mean, hundreds of years, we probably knew it was available to us, but it's been kind of taken out of our, you know, out of our reality now. It's been kind of given our power away to the medical system, and you know. Medications and things like that. And, getting back to what is innate in us, that we are able to heal ourselves and, you know, the earth provides herbs and food and you know, things that are, can nourish our bodies and so forth. So getting back to the way it used to be is kind of, you know, where I feel like I've gone and I feel most of the things I thought were reality. I think completely different about now. Funny, which is kind of crazy to be like, oh my gosh, all of these things have good, my thoughts and beliefs about so many things have changed and I think it's in the right direction. 'cause I'm a lot healthier and happier now. So,
Dr Nat Greenyes, definitely. And I know there's one part. Of your bio that I didn't read, but I'd like to touch on because I think it's also really important. Mm-hmm. That you said what? The stuff that you sent me, that you were actually legally blind and extremely sensitive since birth. Yeah. And so you already had this underlying stuff going on. So did you wanna share a little bit about that as well?
Ramah LeithYeah, absolutely. So, it is genetic, so I was born and have always been legally blind and it's a hidden disability, so people don't look at me and know that I can't see very well. Mm-hmm. and I've really, that was one of the other things with being the perfectionist, because not only was I trying to be perfect because I wanted to be accepted, but like. Even more wanting to be accepted because I had a disability that, you know, made things much more difficult for me. And, you know, there is, accessibility things at work, you know, things that made me feel like maybe people wouldn't think I'm as good at something as everybody else because it was so much more, it was more difficult for me to do what I needed to do. but I adapted and I adapted a lot. But then I think that also made it so people didn't realize how. Much of a strain. It was on me to function in the world where you can't see, but you're still navigating the world. That's for sighted people.
Dr Nat GreenYeah. You know? Yes. So what about now the impact? Now you've done all this other healing work and had all this amazing, you know, third eye open and things. How has that changed overall, how you show up and function in the world?
Ramah LeithWell, the beautiful thing is I don't really need to see very well to do the work I do now. Yeah. You know, so, and I did go to, a channeler when I first started my awakening, and she said, I was like, is that something I can heal? Will I ever be able to, you know, heal my, and it's the nerve from the eye of the brain didn't develop. And and plus I got nearsighted as I got older, but so. She was like, no, you're not gonna be able to do that.
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm.
Ramah LeithBut that's why you need to focus on opening your third eye because at that time when I saw her, I mean, I was nowhere near anything. And she just kept saying, you need to, she, this is funny because at the time I, took it literally. 'Cause that's what I did back then.
Dr Nat GreenYeah.
Ramah Leithand she said, she said, you have a PhD of the mind. And I was like, oh, that's nice. I don't have a PhD, but I guess you're meant, you're telling me I'm being smart. But no, that is not what they meant. They were just like, get the heck outta your mind and get into your heart. You know? It was like you're focusing too much and ruminating and thinking and worrying and, to get really into your heart. And then it was like, op, you're not gonna see with that because you need to open your third eye. So this is another reason and what, you know. Your destiny was to be able to use your other gifts and be able to, to see that way. So,
Dr Nat Greenand
Ramah LeithI think
Dr Nat Greenthe irony's not lost on me with that, that we often are sent. Things like you worked in public health and you had health issues, but you also have sight issues and you needed to open up your third eye. So, you know, I've worked for 35 years in trauma and, and I had a major trauma experience. So these things are not coincidental, I don't think.
Ramah LeithNo, I don't think so. And, and I think the big thing is the contrast is like there's always gonna be that contrast that happens. And if we aren't. You know. And it kind of sometimes a dark place, you can't see the light and you can't move in that direction. And so, you know, that's why it's often the dark night of the soul or something that happens to us health wise or career or something, a loss of someone or something. that kind of wakes us up because we see, we see the opposite and we want. We want it better than that. So yeah, I agree.
Dr Nat GreenYeah,
Ramah Leiththe destiny. The destiny is not so me that we, we get the opposite of where we wanna go and then
Dr Nat GreenExactly.
Ramah LeithTake this in that direction.
Dr Nat GreenAnd then funnily enough, when we've been through the experiences, they become such profound learnings and lessons and a gift, I think. What do you think about that being actually a gift?
Ramah LeithOh, I completely agree. I mean, of course in the moment it doesn't feel like that. No, but if you, yeah, right. Not at all. But, but that's where the courage comes in. That's where the like I know. And the trust in yourself and, the belief in yourself. Mm-hmm. And just taking that next step. And as long as you can see that you can move forward and. Anything is possible and I think that's what we are gonna be shown. Dark things. So again, so that we can see that contrast and so we can choose something different and we can, you know, move into a different way of living or believing or seeing 'cause so much of it is our perception too. You know, we have this perception that kind of ties us into the hard. The hard life, the fear, the the worry, you know, all those types of things. And sometimes when we can look at it like, you know, that happened for a reason. It makes things a lot easier.
Dr Nat GreenYeah. Yeah, definitely. So do you think, would you say there's any specific attributes or personal qualities that you see as being key for helping someone move from trauma through into post-traumatic growth?
Ramah LeithYeah. I think that it's. It really is believing that it can happen. Like believing that you can be your own healer. Yeah. because when we are giving away our power to others
Dr Nat Greenmm-hmm.
Ramah LeithIt makes it really hard to feel we have. Autonomy, the authority, like any of those, you know, being the authentic self to be able to do that and make those changes. And, and I think when we can realize that we do have the power within us, that that allows us the freedom to figure out how that works. Like to figure out where to go with that. And and, you know, we can learn different modalities, but mm-hmm. The options of just. Figuring out how to open your heart, figuring out how to love yourself, figuring out how to connect with nature and just give yourself time to breathe and relax and, enjoy your life. Like, I feel like so much of us just have been kind of working, working, working. That we forgot that. Playing and joy and laughter like is seriously the best medicine. That's what we need to heal, is to have those kind of moments. Definitely so and so trying to find it as much as possible.
Dr Nat GreenYeah. So when all of this happened and then you went down these rabbit holes to, to work out how you could heal yourself, how long was it from there to feeling like. You had connected to your joy and had healed yourself?
Ramah LeithI'd say the journey. Journey started. I mean, it, it didn't, it really didn't take as long as I, you know, it was probably like two, two years, but within even just a couple weeks of. Changing my diet, not working anymore. I already felt a, like a serious change in my body. And so the pain in my joints and everything started to subside. Mm-hmm. so it really kind of started happening pretty quickly once I made that decision. Okay. but then, you know, and so much of it is about raising your vibration, your frequency, and bringing yourself into a higher state of health. but. There are moments when we can have, you know, we can fall back too. So then there's moments where you're like, wow, I'm feeling a little tighter today. You know, like things like that because our nervous system still gets mm-hmm. Overstimulated sometimes we still can go into that, like, oh, what's happening? and so we just have to pull ourselves back out of that. But that's, you know, that's. That's part of existing. 'cause we can't, we're not living in a bubble. Like the world is no happening around us and we're still a part of it. So
Dr Nat Greenit's perfect world where nothing terrible happens. Right?
Ramah LeithYeah. Yeah.
Dr Nat GreenCan't imagine what that would be like. Yeah.
Ramah LeithYeah. So
Dr Nat Greentell me now what life is like for you so we can contrast how it was all through to. What life looks like now for you and and what you do.
Ramah LeithYeah, so I mean, just. S completely opposite. Just the most completely opposite of where I was, I mean, even six years ago. Mm-hmm. so now I live every day with joy. I feel excited to wake up. I feel excited to be in my environment, and my husband and my relationship has gotten so much better. We've gotten so much closer and grown so much together. I have a very different worldview, like I mm-hmm. I used to be like, no, that's not true. No. You know, like I used it, but now I'm like, I am very open to pretty much everything. I'm just like, okay, well, you know, I've been told that wasn't real, but I'm like, but I didn't think this was real. So I'm kind of open to like a lot more things than I used to be. So, yeah. So it really has opened me up to being more open. Mm-hmm. Really exploring so much more out of life and not being as rigid, like you have to do it this way and you must, you know, have the eight to five or you know, whatever it is. But really being able to focus on like, what is it that I can do to be of service to others that also fills my heart and my soul and fills my cup. and then being able to be very cognizant of what's gonna then deplete you too. And like being like, okay, well that's. I'm not gonna go there as much because I can, I can be more aligned with what my energies and my body needs and much more aligned with my body. So, you know, get the clear signals and kind of figure out what that means and be able to move forward. So adjust as needed. So that is very different than how I used to live.
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm.
Ramah LeithAnd now having clients that I'm able to assist, that are going through similar things where, you know. All of them come to me that have pain, so they have some kind of pain, some kind of digestive symptoms.
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm.
Ramah Leithyou know, the gamut, cancer, I've had people with pretty much every, every illness that you can think of. and then being able to help them with not only the medical intuition and the quantum healing, but then also the lifestyle and helping them with their diet and helping them with their cortisol and helping them, you know, all the different, situations that they might be going through. Is just giving me this whole new sense of purpose.
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm.
Ramah LeithAnd sense of, uh, feeling aligned that this is what I actually came here for. 'cause I was, you know, in a health field. And so I was very tied to that. I was always very tied to like, wanting to be healthy and help other people be healthy. And at the end when I was end of like the career, I was doing spreadsheets and I was, you know, running mm-hmm. Grants and things and I was like, that is so far away from when I actually wanted to do, which was to help people and be, there to be of service. Um. That it, it just, it, you know, it didn't have any, it took away all my happiness basically. 'cause I was doing something that wasn't aligned, but I always wanted to be in the health field. So it gave me the opportunity to use the third eye. Because I wasn't the eye eyes. and then to be able to bring in a state of healing where I can work one-on-one with people and really bring them into, a state of being where they feel good about themselves and aligned and healthy and happy and joyful. So, yeah, I don't know if there's anything more than I could ask for then to be able to, to do that, to assist someone that way.
Dr Nat GreenOh, I love that so much that it really has come full circle. Mm-hmm. That you've wanted to help people, you've always had an interest in health, and you've had to go through all of this to really nail what you're doing now as being your purpose in this world. I love it. Yeah,
Ramah Leithabsolutely. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Very different than how it started, but again, there wasn't, this wasn't, I mean, maybe it was a thing, but I didn't know about it, you know? Yeah, yeah. If it wasn't anywhere in my consciousness. So, so yeah, so it, it, it opened up into divine timing for sure.
Dr Nat GreenAnd I think as well, like. To give it the perspective that you had done a lot of training and academia doesn't focus on this woo woo weird stuff, does it? It's very much about evidence-based science and a real medical model, and so that wouldn't have been on your radar. It wasn't on my radar. Was, you go to uni and you do all these courses and you do these things and then you apply that knowledge. But as you said, and I'll go back to that, that you said that you really were, you know, your PhD in your brain and most of the people that I work with or that listen to the podcast and connect with us are very much in their head, overthinkers. And we've disconnected from our other brains, the head, the heart, and the gut. Mm-hmm. And by you having these realizations, you were able to get outta your head and drop into your heart space and open that up fully.
Ramah LeithMm-hmm.
Dr Nat GreenAnd I think when. I get guests on, we, we often talk about that and we talk about some level of spirituality being one of the things that has helped them move from trauma to post-traumatic growth. Doesn't matter what that spirituality is and what it is you believe in, that's irrelevant. It's what spirituality means for you.
Ramah LeithYeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, there would've been. I don't know how any of this could have happened if I hadn't opened up to spirituality. And I had always, I mean, I didn't grow up religious or any of that. Mm-hmm. but I. Always had this belief in spirituality. I just didn't quite understand it. You know, like I didn't, I didn't know, I didn't know that much about it. I just was like, I know I'm more spiritual. I believe in these other things that mm-hmm. Maybe as religious focused. Yeah. Um. Yeah, it, it definitely opened up a lot when you are able to see what's beyond the veil, like that there's so much more out there and there's so much more love and support than we could have ever, ever imagined. Oh,
Dr Nat Greendefinitely. And
Ramah Leiththey're wanting to help us, like they are loving us unconditionally and wanting to help us all the time. So just that even knowledge of that. Breaks down the heart walls, right? Because you're just like, I didn't know I was lovable enough to have, you know, all of this around me supporting me. So yeah, it's, it's beautiful.
Dr Nat GreenOh, I love that so much. So, as we move to wrapping this conversation up, I'd really love for you to share with our listeners where they can find you and find out more about you online.
Ramah LeithMm-hmm. So, my website is Healing Words with Ramah.
Dr Nat GreenMm-hmm.
Ramah LeithHealing words with Ramah.com. I'm also on, YouTube Healing Words with Ramah and, Ramah Leith, my name on Facebook so they can find me there. And I also create summits. So I have a summit coming up in, June. I'm not sure when this is gonna air. June 22nd through 26th and it's called Health, wealth and Quantum Alignment, moving the 3D body into the five D flow. So very excited. It's gonna be there. Amazing guests on, on, on it as well. I'm very excited to share it with everyone. And again, I was, that's how I learned so much in the beginning was on summits and so, I'm just blessed that I get to be able to do this now and again. You know, paying it forward, being able to share these amazing people that inspired me and to be able to share them with others. so that is, will be 3D Body, five D Flow will be, how you can register. So that's coming up June 22nd through the 26th. So Beautiful. That's another way that people can connect with me and just find out a little bit more about all the wonderful, beautiful options and things and healing modalities out there for all of us.
Dr Nat GreenAnd I think, yeah, having that open mind to just see what's out there. If you try something and you don't like it, try something else. So I love, I love the idea of a summit. There'll be some things that people love and some that they don't connect to, but by having a variety of options, it really opens the door to find what works for you. So I will put all that information in the show notes and we'll make sure this airs maybe late May, so that people can connect and, and keep it in the forefront of their mind so that they register and join you in your summit. That'll be beautiful. And I know you mentioned before we came on that you also very generously offer a free gift. So I'd love you to share a little bit about that as well.
Ramah LeithYeah, so I have, when I work with people and do the healings, it is a meditative experience and so I take them into a meditative experience and it's called my business, called Healing Words with Ramah, because Im really, um. Walking them through what I'm seeing. So I'm, you know, telling them what the guides are showing me and it's, they always show beautiful imagery. and, you know, crystalline light and gold and, you know, all these different kinds of crystals and stuff like that in the healing activations. And so this is a meditation that's a chakra healing, meditation, and it's called peace, connection and alignment. And so it's one where I was having the guides came in and we were working on things. And so it's, it's a beautiful, beautiful aligned meditation that just has all this beautiful imagery and the guides are coming through and really very much supporting, supporting everyone who's gonna listen.
Dr Nat GreenWonderful. We'll definitely put that in the show notes and along with your how to connect with you so people can go and try that. I'm really excited. I'm gonna definitely listen to that.
Ramah LeithOh, good, good.
Dr Nat GreenMy brain always needs a way of slowing down and having some sort of meditation. Yeah, so that's exciting. So thank you so much for joining us today. I always ask one question at the end of all my guests, and I'll be interested to see how you answer this. So, what do you think your younger self would think of what you are doing today and what you've achieved?
Ramah LeithOh my gosh. My younger self would be so happy. I mean, I feel like the younger self was the one that I left behind for all those years. Like that was the, the. The kid that liked, I mean, I liked healing people then. Like I, you know, if someone was sick I wanted to help and, you know, and just had so much joy as a little person, you know, a young person that I playing and having that I had to leave behind for so many years. Mm. And so I feel like that that young person has reemerged. As an adult person.
Dr Nat GreenOh, I love it.
Ramah LeithYep. And she gets to live that, that kind of magic life that she always wanted to live.
Dr Nat GreenOh, I love that. And I just love that that brings so much hope to people that we usually have known that person in the past, but we've disconnected from that little child. And I love, that's why I asked that question because. It's about reconnecting to that inner joy and something, that little spark that was there that we've lost a lot of the time.
Ramah LeithSo true, so true. Yeah.
Dr Nat GreenWell, thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and your experiences with us today. Thank you so much.
Ramah LeithThank you so much for having me. This has been really fun. Thank you.
Dr Nat GreenAwesome. Bye for now. Thank you for spending this time with me on Growing Tall Poppies. My hope is that today's episode has offered you something more than insight, that it's helped you feel a little more connected to who you are now, a little more trusting of your body, and a little more permission to stand tall without shrinking or forcing yourself forward. Post-traumatic growth isn't about fixing yourself or returning to who you once were. It's about understanding how you adapted, honoring your nervous system, and gently choosing what no longer needs to come with you. New episodes of Growing Tall Poppies are released weekly. Every Tuesday, and I'd love for you to continue walking this path with us as we explore identity after adversity, integrity, invisibility wounds, nervous system wisdom, and what it truly means to grow forward grounded, aligned, and embodied. If this episode resonated, I invite you to subscribe, follow, share it with someone that you feel might need it, or simply take a quiet moment to reflect on what's ready to move forward for you. You can also find me on Instagram, @drnatgreen, on Facebook, @drnataliegreen, or over on YouTube at Dr. Nat Green. And remember, you don't need to rush, and you don't need to hide anymore. Stay connected, stay true, and keep standing tall like the tall poppy you are. I'll see you in the next episode. Bye for now.